Matt Amsden Tells The Truth About Thai Coconuts and Formaldehyde
Jan 9, 2008 Guest Blogger: MATT AMSDEN CEO and author of RAWvolution: Gourmet Living Cuisine
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MATT AMSDEN--
Are you one of those folks whose initial excitement in discovering Thai Coconuts was quickly replaced with fear when you heard the rumor that the sweet treat is soaked in formaldehyde before reaching the United States?
I don’t know where it started nor can I remember when I first heard it, but the rumor is certainly widespread.
I have had dozens of friends and clients ask me about it in panicked phone calls, during my raw food preparation classes, or even during visits to our café.
Some fearful raw-fooders have completely removed Thai Coconuts from their diets in response to the rumor, and there are even raw restaurants that have deleted them from their menus.
In short, we have all allowed this rumor to spread based completely on hearsay and without any definitive proof.
My wife Janabai and I love Thai Coconuts and weren’t willing to leave them out of our morning shakes or delete them from our café’s menu until we received definitive proof that they are in fact, treated with formaldehyde.
Waiting for someone else to provide such proof was getting us nowhere. We decided to find the truth, not only for ourselves but also for our customers, friends, and for those spreading fear by way of a baseless rumor.
We contacted Michelson Laboratories. Michelson is a fully accredited microbiology and chemical testing lab with over 70 highly trained specialists and technicians located in Commerce, California.
Michelson was confident that after proper testing of a sample they could tell us definitively whether or not Thai Coconuts were treated with formaldehyde.
We supplied Michelson with samples from our regular stock of Thai Coconuts and waited patiently as the testing process began.
As the weeks went on, Janabai and I decided that whatever the result, we would disseminate the information as widely as possible. We would either discontinue our use of Thai Coconuts and warn others or dispel the myth and continue to endorse the use of Thai Coconuts.
On Thursday, May 11 th, 2006, we received the results from the lab.
There was absolutely no indication whatsoever that the Thai Coconut samples provided to Michelson Laboratories was ever in contact with formaldehyde.
We were excited! Not only could we continue to enjoy Thai Coconuts but we also had definitive proof that the formaldehyde scare was nothing more than rumor.
It is my sincere hope that in the future, our raw food communities will not fall prey to lies and made-up stories. These rumors divide rather than unite and spread fear rather than information.
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Reader Comments (21)
thanks
No other chemicals were tested for as I personally funded the testing and each chemical test costs several hundred dollars.
Please remember that the primary purpose for the testing was to determine the validity of a particularly widespread claim. The implication being that at some point, someone began to authoratatively state that Thai coconuts are treated with formaldehyde while that is an absolute scientific falcity.
The purpose of the testing was not to determine whether non-organic coconuts are organic, it was to shine a light on the fact that for some reason, people have an axe to grind with Thai coconuts and that they will create out-right lies under the guise of spreading health information. If one chooses to not eat Thai coconuts for some other reason, they have that perogotive. The most important lesson I learned from this experience however, is that it is unwise and irresponsible to heed or continue to spread rumor where there is no accountability of the source. Even those who made seemingly innocent statements like "I heard Thai coconuts are dipped in formaldehyde" are implicit in a culture of spreading fear by way of a baseless rumor. Health-minded consumers have enough to contend with from large corporations buying into organic produce growing, Codex and mandatory pasteurization that we need not implode from the inside by spreading mistruths throughout our own ranks. Food should be fun! Why are we searching so desperately to find fault in a food that we could be enjoying? Now that the formaldehyde myth has been dispelled; what will they say next? I challenge new detractors put their money where their mouth is and prove their claims scientifically. If they are right, I'll set Thai coconuts aside as fast as anyone.
Knowing that we can rest assured and purchase the tested and verified brand... perhaps there are other unscrupulous companies that use formaldahyde in their coconuts...
Thanks again for your innitiative.
Rawny
Thanks!
it's methyl bromide that they use not formaldehyde.
Date: October 2, 2008 at 11:09 pm PST
In Reply to: no formaldehyde in coconuts posted by gary on October 2, 2008 at 10:28 am:
Search for coconut in the document:
Methyl Bromide is an ozone depleting agent and is toxic.
USDA Treatment Requirements Manual
With the young coconuts, I used to consume 2-3 a day with my two girls and myself. That went on for about a year straight. Then we cut it out for a couple of months(prices went up/and/or they didn't get them in all the time). When I bought them again, a week later or so, my eyes started to tear..first the one, then the other. My 16 year old was battleing pimples on her face..(we are raw foodist). After about 2 months on the coconuts(in our raw smoothies) they ran out in the store..After 2 days of no coconuts, my eyes were not tearing and red from the tearing(around the skin). The next day, my 16 year old daughters face started to clear up. Now her face is almost totally clear and it has been about 9 days no young coconuts..myself, the red around my eyes are almost gone..I have absolutely no more watery eyes.(outside edges). The tears were stinging the outside parts of my eyes..There IS a chemical in the coconut!
Needless to say, No MORE COCONUTS for me..I will stick with my coconut oil and organic dried coconut..I also have a coconut store "CocoLoco" in Canada..
Coconutbev
www.cocolocobev.com
Forgot to say, it was the "Best" brand of young coconuts.
Coconutbev
Finding out that there may be some chemicals involved in keeping them "looking" fresh was actually a relief for me.... it made it easy to say... that even though I eat 80% raw... I can live well without young Thai coconuts!!
There is so much going on out there, and we Americans are sicker then ever before in history.... wouldnt suprise me at all if they are dipped in "something" that will eventually cause cancer.... unless you by organic... mostly everything is laced with something bad...
Well, enjoy your coconuts... but I think I will pass.... :)
Kim
However, these are different coconuts than Thai Coconuts. And while I do definitely have an open mind, I have had a similar experience with not really enjoying the experience of young thai coconuts. Just could not really ever enjoy the taste. Whether that's something sketchy or not, I'm not sure... Maybe my body just doesn't vibe with that variety. I do prefer opening those as their already made easier to open....
I'd love to see more research done as well, re: different varieties, from different territories. I think most coconuts imported into the US come from the Philippines.
However, all types of different practices are happening there... Organic, Chemical Baths, Raw, Cooked to 1000 degrees ;-) (slight exaggeration)
I think that's where Local is totally key... Obviously with coconuts, not optimal for most of the US. It's definitely an area that's hard to control from far away.
Cheers ~
First of all how young was the coconut that you tested.. If it is mature enough then yes an chemical that they dip it in can have a harder time filtering through to the meat and the water. So the coconuts you had tested were prob from a company who uses more mature than actual young coconuts.
A true young coconut will have almost no meat inside. YOUNG coconuts that contain jelly are very thin and act as filters. ANYTHING you spray, dip or pu ton the husk to preserve them will filter through to the water. Now one or two will not hurt you, but long term exposure to these chemicals are very harmful. Also US Customs require coconuts to be sprayed and dipped in waxes and chemicals to enter the united states and cannot be shipped in whole. A NORMAL FRESH coconut only has a shelf life of 1-2 weeks with the husk, if de-husked that dropps to 1 week max! So if these coconuts that are bein shipped from Thailand are shaved, then take 3 weeks to get here, are still good? The question then becomes what kind of chemicals are being used to preserve them for that long.
I am glad you had one tested but I am sorry to say you had a mature one with at least 1/4 of an inch of white meat tested. That is more of a teenage coconut not a young coconut.
ITs best to spend the money and get USA Floria grown coconuts or pure raw and unpasteurized coconut water. search for it on google. or visit www.cocojoescoconuts.com